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The Legalities of it All

Dear fellow Underground miners,

I was on Beth Martens Telegram channel and this came through this mourning and was of extreme interest to me because I have essentially been hamstringed for the last almost year by not being able to "legally" register, operate and drive a motor vehicle on public roads which has been crippling because I live an hour from any services or food stores. While there are several red flags with this message and the website, it appears as though these guys have many decades of experience working out the legalities of the US system of law with many successes under their belts? https://www.americanjusticefoundation.com/ I live in Canada but am contacting them to see if I can use any of their information and apply it to my situation? If one explores their site they "seem" to have a noble mission of educating the public and more specifically the children and young adults (a-dolts) on .... yes Clint, "Common Law".

I'm at the point now where I'll use what works or what has worked for others rather than dismiss or criticize it out of hand? If there is a proven track record then it's definitely worth a look and more over worth a try? This is the message as it appeared in the Telegram post, I don't like a lot of the wording but on the surface it did get my attention?

18 July 2023

The Power and Purpose of Reason

Reason, the foundation of Justice, is Discipline seeking Truth.

Justice is Reason in action, deciding between alternatives.

Justice is not amorphous clay to be molded and shaped as we choose, the toy of tyrants, the merchandise of lawyers.

It is our Treasure, the Hope of Mankind, the Architecture of Civilization.

It is, as it should be, impervious to politics or public persuasion, guided by Reason and Reason alone.

Justice, guided by Reason that cannot be persuaded by Falsehood.

Reason, that Firm Foundation on which Justice finds her Footing.

Reason is the Engine that powers Justice toward Truth.

Reason justifies the Rulings by which Justice orders Society.

The Core of Reason is Truth and Love.

Love compelling Justice to be Just.

Truth defining the Boundaries that Reason must obey.

Lights in our Present Darkness.

Forces for our Good, urging us to Action and Obedience.

Truth, Love, and Reason guided by Intellect and the Rule of Right, setting the Stage for the Great Revolution prepared for by the Ages by which Mankind will someday share the Global Prosperity and Peace we all desire.

We must choose now to honor these with our Labor and Devotion, casting the tinsel of temporary enticements aside, each of us taking our place in the Work.

We must lift these Lights higher so they may lead our children to Safety.

Time waits for this generation to make Eternity’s awesome Decision.

So fellow miners, have a look and let me know your thoughts and I'll come back with more once I've had a chance to look into this a bit further?

kind blessings to All!

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Unknown member

Jul 24, 2023

Kelly,

I am taking the Dr. Graves course which is long and arduous with lots to memorize and learn. You get it for a year and then can resubscribe. I am not sure that I'll ever be able to use what I've learned. Just know, you would be stepping into your legal fiction to 'appear' in court and act as your own lawyer. So it is not something that helps you get out of things as a living man. I have come across Mark Emery and another man with some strategies to stay out of your 'person'. I posted something on it awhile back, but I am not sure of the efficacy of their methods in action. I am still investigating. Not enough hours in the day or night!

A few links from my exploration:https://youtu.be/BYnT68Y7KWQ. https://youtu.be/v4Bjskt_3Iw. https://youtu.be/Jh4hA7KsTW4.

Good luck, think positive, pray and expect it to happen,

Ilene

kellyharel

Jul 24, 2023

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Hey Ilene,

Thanks for the heads up! On the one hand what you wrote isn't surprising, nothing is free in this life and nothing comes without doing some kind of work. I like work, but I like the work that I want to do, the stuff I'm interested in doing like chopping wood and carrying water or creating things with my hands. Learning all this legal stuff "for me" is bullshit ... pardon my dog Latin but it holds zero interest for me except that I know it controls me in many ways or in all ways as a Strawman.

I'm a simple man, I live a simple and relatively uncomplicated life which is perhaps a little easier (though not easy) being alone and living outside of the city? At this point in time I'm extremely tired of "having" to do this, or having to do that or having to study this or research that or doing "it" wrong or doing it right, follow this guy or watch that gal, say this thing or say no thing, can't I just live a simple life and help others when there is an opportunity to do so?

The consciousness that I have in this moment is one of perhaps willful ignorance? I see injustice and evil in almost everything these days and after many years of "trying" to change myself and others I just seem to not be giving a something that rhymes with duck? I look at guys like Graves who says he wants to essentially change the world and "you" can if you just plop down 250.00 usd for an electronic signal with zero attached to it except for information that we all have access to? Yes, he compiled it and yes he used his experience and God given creativeness to create it for others to learn from but don't be "selling" the idea that this stuff is as easy as one, two, three which he does over and over again and makes you feel like a creaton if you can't afford the month of cigarettes or potato chips you must forego to buy it?

Okay, not trying to hate on this guy, from all the testimonials it seems like his course works and perhaps most of his heart is in the right place so God bless the "man" who is ultimately my brother? To me, if he is as benevolent and as good intentioned as he says he is then I would think he would find a way to make this information more widely available to everyone? Yes, I do realize that it's all in the way things are "marketed" and like the immortal Bill Hicks said in one of his bits that "if you are in sales, advertising and marketing, kill yourself ... no, I'm serious kill yourself". If you offer something for free people won't value it, if you offer something for too much people won't by it so you have to find that sweet spot and even then if people have to do some work and heaven forbid use their brain then it's basically useless and won't be applied?

It's easy to judge others and say why don't they ..... (fill in the blanks) and I have to remember that as the years go by the program that runs in my mind as well as everyone else's becomes so deeply entrenched that no matter how hard you (I) try most of us cannot pull overselves out of that rut that is so well troddened that it is now a deep crevase with sheer walls on both sides. Trying to scale those verticles for so many decades trying to find peace has me thinking that there are other ways of looking for and finding peace?

After six decades I can say honestly and with confidence that I have never been at peace or ever found true peace, although I do see many others who have found it laying in their respective coffins ... what's the difference, peace is peace .... isn't it?

kind blessings to you siStar

Clint R

Jul 22, 2023

I cannot speak to this particular site, but I certainly would recomend what's attached to it, which is the Jurisdictionary by Graves. I interviewed him a while ago, if you want to listen. Good show.

RADIO SHOW 252, NOVEMBER 10, 2014 Download: https://corporationnationradioarchives.files.wordpress.com/2014/11/show252_nov10.mp3

Clint’s Guest tonight: Frederick Graves http://www.jurisdictionary.com/ How to Win in Court!

-Clint

kellyharel

Jul 23, 2023

Replying to

Thanks clint,

Havin a listen to the show right now ... btw I like your intro to this show "unite" it always seems to choke me up with emotion for some reason?

peace brother!

kellyharel

Jul 23, 2023

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Hey clint,

Thank you for all you do, I appreciate it and so do the countless multitudes who have no idea who you are and the work you have done on their behalf! After listening to your radio show I see that Dr. Graves is indeed intimately involved in the https://www.americanjusticefoundation.com/ , if not one of its creators. I read several dozen testimonials on Grave's jurisdictionary site and for me its worth a deeper dive to address and potentially resolve some of my long standing concerns with the court.

On another note I'd love to see you continue to do a regular show in any format, even updating your previous work with some of the same guests and how things have shaken out over the years with them and yourself?

One style of show could be using music, yours and others to speak to some of the current ails of the realm and peoples ignorance of the real law (christ) of Nature(Jehovah) and how we can release from the artificial matrix? I like the idea of doing a voice "over" music like in the intro to some of your radio shows. Narrating some profound wisdom from your books with various types of music, beats, rapps, riffs and melodies would be cool and it might act as a medium for people learning the truth of things or perhaps embedding a very good message into our subconscious? Just a thought, I'm sure you have many ideas on the shelf that might need a dust off that I'd be willing to help out with if I can?

kind blessings,